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1 -REMC1 Standards - Google Gemini FERPA and Cybersecurity
1 +REMC1 Standards - AI Artificial Intelligence Stance and Google Gemini with Student Data Security in Mind
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3 -= {{id name="WARNING:-Google-Gemini-is-only-FERPA-compliant-if-you-have-Google-Ed-Workspaces-and-pay-for-a-license."/}}WARNING: Google Gemini is only FERPA compliant if you have Google Ed Workspaces and pay for a license. =
3 += {{id name="Google-Gemini-Facts-and-Considerations"/}}Google Gemini Facts and Considerations =
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5 -* The free version sifts through all your email and documents sucking the data into its public database.
6 -* Create a burner personal account if you want to use Google Gemini. Dont use it with your normal Google Email either unless you want it to suck all your emails and drive documents into the public database (including banking, HIPAA, FERPA, PII info etc..) everything then have it cranked out to other public who ask gemini questions. There are people/bad actors who craft questions to try and reveal/pull this info back out etc.. Its an identity theft attack vector.
7 -* Here is the REMC1 official template response to Gemini requests - Accurate as of May 2024. Inquiry pending to Google for Ed licensing.
8 -** [[https:~~/~~/docs.google.com/document/d/1Y7O1Yxe9FwbC68NXJBgpq29WhRf-9EJXQAbzJFYdSGI/edit>>url:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Y7O1Yxe9FwbC68NXJBgpq29WhRf-9EJXQAbzJFYdSGI/edit||data-card-appearance="inline" shape="rect"]]
5 +== {{id name="Google-Gemini-Quick-Facts"/}}Google Gemini Quick Facts ==
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10 -= {{id name="How-Gemini-is-Enabled-for-remc1.org-staff"/}}How Gemini is Enabled for [[remc1.org>>url:http://remc1.org||shape="rect"]] staff =
7 +=== {{id name="FERPA-Compliant-for-Students-18+-and-staff-(for-Google-Education-Workspaces)"/}}FERPA Compliant for Students 18+ and staff (for Google Education Workspaces) ===
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12 -* June 2024: We have three Gemini licenses all assigned to Josh, Steve, Hayley
13 -* Currently its enabled via a security group called GeminiEnable
14 -* This group is setup through the admin console NOT [[groups.google.com>>url:http://groups.google.com||shape="rect"]]. You cannot use a [[groups.google.com>>url:http://groups.google.com||shape="rect"]] group to control services it has to be added in the admin console (as of June 2024 -JDH)
15 -* Here are the steps utilized to enable. ALSO… I went to admin->clicked on the apps waffle->Gemini->User Access (right hand square pane)->Groups section (middle left pane, click on the arrow by groups), Now select GeminiEnable, Now notice this is where I enforce the setting to ONLY ALLOW USERS WITH A GEMINI LICENSE. This way if someone gets happy and adds more individuals WITHOUT licensing they still wont be able to enable Gemini and feed all remc data into the public engine.
16 -* Ok Here are the steps utilized to enable the service via the GeminiEnable group
17 -* For this step, you need admin privileges for Groups, Organizational Units (top-level), and Service Settings. Learn more about [[Administrator privilege definitions>>url:https://support.google.com/a/answer/1219251||shape="rect"]].
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19 -*1. In your Google **Admin console** (at [[admin.google.com>>url:http://admin.google.com||shape="rect"]])...
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21 -Go to Menu ->apps
9 +* Free Gemini Chat experience OR paid licenses
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11 +=== {{id name="FERPA-COPPA-Compliant-for-13+-coming-soon-Fall-2024"/}}FERPA COPPA Compliant for 13+ coming soon Fall 2024 ===
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13 +* Again: Free Gemini Chat experience OR paid licenses
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25 -[[ ~[~[Apps~>~>url:https://admin.google.com/ac/apps~|~|shape="rect"~]~].>>image:url:https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/ocGtUSENh4QebLpvZcmLcNRZyaTBcolMRSyl||custom-width="true" original-height="24" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/ocGtUSENh4QebLpvZcmLcNRZyaTBcolMRSyl" data-xwiki-image-style-alignment="center" width="250" original-width="24"]]
26 -)))
27 -*1. Click the type of service: **Google Workspace**
28 -*1. In the **Groups **section, find and select your group (in this case GeminiEnable)
29 -*1*. To view the list of access groups, click **Search for a group**.
30 -*1*. Search by group name or address.
31 -If you don’t find your group, it might be a group created in Google Groups, which can't be used as an access group. 
32 -*1. On the right, point at the row for the service.
33 -*1*. To turn on access, click **Turn On**.
34 -*1*. To remove access for the group, click **Unset**. Now, users get the access setting of their organization. However, if the users belong to any other access group with the service turned on, they continue// //to have access to the service.
35 -*1*. (((
36 -To set multiple services, check the box for each service and click **On **or **Unset **in the upper right.
15 +== {{id name="Districts-CAN-enable-Gemini-Free-Chat-experience-today-for-18+"/}}Districts CAN enable Gemini Free Chat experience today for 18+ ==
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38 -[[image:url:https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/m9V2zwjURYzmpV0LnR9rXu2pmKZRIC6vQ2HX||custom-width="true" original-height="157" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/m9V2zwjURYzmpV0LnR9rXu2pmKZRIC6vQ2HX" data-xwiki-image-style-alignment="center" alt="Click the Groups list on the left " width="250" original-width="320"]][[image:url:https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/QCqT5l1Ss152u4gv4xN6t0scTtCKBvXlhQ7u||custom-width="true" original-height="157" src="https://storage.googleapis.com/support-kms-prod/QCqT5l1Ss152u4gv4xN6t0scTtCKBvXlhQ7u" data-xwiki-image-style-alignment="center" alt="Find the Turn On link next to an app" width="250" original-width="331"]]
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40 -*1*. Changes can take up to 24 hours but typically happen more quickly. [[Learn more>>url:https://support.google.com/a/answer/7514107||shape="rect"]]
17 +== {{id name="Google-Gemini-Version-differences-as-of-September-2024-(moving-target)"/}}Google Gemini Version differences as of September 2024 (moving target) ==
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19 +* **Gemini (chat experience - free):** There is no limit on how many prompts you input into the tool. This is the chat experience, meaning users are able to insert questions or prompts; e.g. "create a lesson plan for my 3rd grade history class on US presidents" ~-~- it will then create an outline of what you've asked it to do. //**The main difference with the chat experience vs. the paid licenses is that this does NOT integrate with Workspace**//. The other licenses have Gemini built into Docs, Sheets, Meets, Slides, Gmail and Drive. So it's capable of performing more actions within the suite of Google tools. //**Data protection for 18+ as of Sept 2024 (with plans for 13+ fall of 2024)**//
20 +* **Gemini Education: **Paid license for 18+ users. Limits on # of uses per month (hundreds of uses/month limit).** Integrates with Workspace **products. Offers 'Gems' (custom AI expert for any topic).** Data protection.**
21 +* **Gemini Education Premium:** Paid licenses for 18+ users. **No limits on usage. Integrates with Workspace products, also has Gems and data protection. **Advanced Meet capabilities are also available where you can have Gemini take notes for you in a meeting, or attend a meeting on your behalf if you're not able to attend. (Gemini Meets is kind of beta at the moment but improving quickly).
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23 += {{id name="Detailed-Gemini-Information"/}}Detailed Gemini Information =
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25 +== {{id name="WARNING:-As-of-September-2024-Free-Google-Gemini-for-Educational-Workspaces-is-only-FERPA-compliant-for-Staff-or-Students-over-18."/}}WARNING: As of September 2024 Free Google Gemini for Educational Workspaces is only FERPA compliant for Staff or Students over 18. ==
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27 +* Google says to NOT enable for students under 18. Google terms of service will not (never) support use of Gemini/AI for students UNDER 13 (COPPA)
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29 +== {{id name="September-2024-Update-on-Gemini-and-FERPA-considerations---Facts-developing-over-time"/}}September 2024 Update on Gemini and FERPA considerations - Facts developing over time ==
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31 +* This information is from a Google Workspace for Ed. K12 Field Customer Lead and Google engineers
32 +* **Long story short Google Gemini Free Chat experience has data protections/FERPA compliance as of Sept 1 for 18+ students and staff**. **13+** **(with parental consent) is COMMING SOON FALL 2024**
33 +* As of September 2024 Quote: “Good news, these additional data protections for [[gemini.google.com>>url:http://gemini.google.com||shape="rect"]] free of charge service launched on August 30th! Here is a blogpost about it. Like Sam mentioned, this means any use of the gemini chat experience within an education account will 1) not be used to train our models 2) not be reviewed by anyone at Google and 3) not be shared with any other user or institution. That usage is safe and secure to the education user. Currently, these apply for 18+ users. The terms and conditions are still considered an 'additional service' within the admin console, however have those additional data protections in place.
34 +* 13 and + Free Google Gemini Chat experience is available currently as of Sept 2024 but there is NO official statement on FERPA for that category. 13+ for Google Gemini is also only available with parental consent (Google Terms of Service).
35 +* 13 and + Free Google Gemini Chat experience will SOON have an announcement this fall on how it WILL be FERPA compliant with data privacy. Google representatives say WAIT until the announcement for enablement if districts plan to do so.
36 +* With that said, I will include an explanation between the Free student chat experience, the Paid staff tier one 18+ student and staff experience, and the Paid PREMIUM 18+ staff and student experience.
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38 +== {{id name="WARNING:-Regarding-the-NON-Educational-FREE-version-of-Google-Gemini"/}}WARNING: Regarding the NON-Educational FREE version of Google Gemini ==
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40 +* This is for the personal free Gemini version or the NON-Ed Workspace free Gemini only
41 +* The free version sifts through all your email and documents sucking the data into its public database.
42 +* Create a burner personal account if you want to use Google Gemini. Don't use it with your normal Google Email either unless you want it to suck all your emails and drive documents into the public database (including banking, HIPAA, FERPA, PII info etc..) everything then have it cranked out to other public who ask gemini questions. There are people/bad actors who craft questions to try and reveal/pull this info back out etc.. Its an identity theft attack vector.
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1 -REMC1 Standards - Google Gemini FERPA and Cybersecurity
1 +REMC1 Standards - AI Artificial Intelligence Stance and Google Gemini with Student Data Security in Mind